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goose 3:38 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
Your daily BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate) is 1,896 Calories.

Factoring in your activity level, your body uses an estimated 2,607 Calories per day.

I popped you down as lightly active despite your talk of muscle mass (which would require more calories).

Westham67 3:33 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
I had chest pains and though I had done it in the gym . Long story short 2 stents fitted 9/4/18 my treatment plan was 1 week light duties 2 weeks work outside 6 weeks running , swimming , strenuous exercise

goose 3:28 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
One last time for you, maybe get your care worker to help.
The BMR for a man of your age, height & weight is at lowest 1900 calories. The other factors you waffle about are negligible differences. Your height & weight are the two biggest factors.

Like I said I’ll give you +/- 5% but not 30%.
Funny how now you suddenly don’t eat 1500 at the weekends lol.
Well you’re circa 2500 calories in deficit so it must be some weekends you’re having.

Keep up the pretence.

Mr. Burns 3:28 Thu Feb 20
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Nutsin 2:22 Thu Feb 20

French vanilla creamer?? You absolute wanker!

wd40 3:19 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard

Spandex Sidney..


I fully agree.

riosleftsock 3:18 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
Golden Oldie 3:06 Thu Feb 20

I don't think I'd last 5 minutes over there. Bring it on though!

wd40 3:16 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
Put this in your heath pipes ...

I'm 61 always been fit run marathons played football Saturday and Sundays til I hit 35 took up cycling to save the knees and loved it .Up to two years ago I could easy cycle 80 miles a day then do 30 miles the next yes maybe too many miles at times without resting in between but always eaten very healthy don't smoke or drink beer.

Two years ago after just getting on my bike I had heart attack inside a hour I was having stems put in to save my life .
So I'm telling all the above to the heart surgeon on his rounds the next day he replies
'' its like this it was your turn simple as that your heart has done 60 years of work and needed a M.O.T keep cycling but maybe rest more take some days off in a row ,your blood reading reads you are very low on sugar and salt maybe treat your self to some crisps and relax in front of the t.v and put some salt on your dinner in reason ''
stress? ''no nothing to do with it ''
I couldn't really debate with him really after he just save my life 24 hours earlier.

Now I put salt on my dinner and eat nice crisp and still cycle.

Golden Oldie 3:06 Thu Feb 20
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riosleftsock 2:58
Perhaps we should seed a feeder thread over at Mumsnet to entice some ladies over here to try and increase the T count in this one

Nutsin 2:58 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
Seems as though you missed this part Goose.

Typically, a reduction of 500 calories per day is suggested to lose 1 pound (450 grams) per week.

Though this would equate to a 52-pound (23.5-kg) weight loss in one year, research shows that the average rate of weight loss is much slower.

Behavioral and biological factors, such as dietary adherence and differences in gut bacteria and metabolic rates, lead people to lose weight at different rates (3Trusted Source, 4Trusted Source).

riosleftsock 2:58 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
I blame defjam and Ged for selling 50% of the site to mumsnet.

Westham67 2:56 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
I was thinking more Aspergers syndrome eating smelly boiled eggs in the office

geoffpikey 2:52 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
You eat BOILED EGGS in an OFFICE???

You sociopath.

Nutsin 2:49 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard

It maintains 14 stone for me when I target 1500 calories per day midweek.

Eating 2000-2500 calories per day as you suggest would cause me to put on weight. That's a fact.

As for eating 3 meals per day instead of spreading them out is debatable there is research siding on both.


When I get up I have avocado toast, then wait until I am in my office an hour or so later to eat my boiled eggs with my coffee.

I will have lunch around 11 am depending how early I start work that day then after that I will have a snack either an apple,, banana, carrots or some nuts.

This means I tend to eat a smaller dinner.


Didnt see your exact scientific formula mention stomach bacteria or health.

It's okay you can admit it now, not everybody has the same metabolic rate even when resting and not everybody loses weight at the same clip at a certain calorie count.

Unless you want to come across as an idiot or obtuse.

geoffpikey 2:48 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
After all the hokum on here, there's only one surefire strategy:

Follow Adele on Twitter.

That'll work.

goose 2:36 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
Hahah you fool.

You’ve C&P a weight loss menu despite claiming 1500 calories maintained 14 stone.

And it’s 3 meals a day which is exactly what you said you don’t eat.

You’re hilarious.

Moncurs Putting Iron 2:26 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
I burnt 1500 scrolling through that!

Nutsin 2:22 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
Goose,

Now do I eat everything on that list all week long, the answer is no, of course not.

Convenience eating gets in the way. So for example instead of going home and cooking Salmon when the diet suggests I might go to the grocery store and buy a $10.00 freshly cooked roast chicken and eat a chicken breast with some charred brussel sprouts.
I buy high fiber cereal from mothers market and sprinkle flax seed 1 tbsp on it and eat that some mornings with low fat cows milk. Not big on almond milk.

I usually have some walnuts, pine nuts or mini carrots in my desk or office fridge to snack on between meals if I am hungry, usually between lunch and dinner.

I enjoy a cup of coffee in the morning when I get to my office, even with the French vanilla coffee creamer it's under 100 calories.

Weekends I eat out for breakfast, lunch and/ or dinner typically, so the diet gets shelved.

So there you have it, a 1500 calorie diet for you to get your head around.

Do I hit 1500 calories exact each day, the answer is no of course not, it's a target, I aim at. But being disciplined midweek allows me to live a little st the weekend without worrying about gaining weight as I get older.
Now I have to get ready for work, so excuse me.

You're welcome.

riosleftsock 2:13 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
In memory of Eddie B, Nutsin has cut and pasted an entire book.

Take a bow Nuts, son.

Spandex Sidney 2:08 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
Fuck it, you do know you will die one day don't you? Like whatever you do??

Best thing you can do in your life is not worry about ANYTHING, take things on the chin when they go south, enjoy your biscuits and when your time comes to row your boat back in go with a happy heart that you've enjoyed yourself.

Giving up stress is the best thing you can do for your health. Check out the brexit thread, everyone in there is a massive coronary and mental health risk and the last thought that will shoot through their mind before they check out is why did I waste my life stressing about things I didn't need to to.

Be neutral in life. Go take long walks in the country. Wank regulary and eat your fucking biscuits. Plenty of time not to when the crematory flames are licking at your soft parts.

Nutsin 2:02 Thu Feb 20
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A 1,500-Calorie Diet: Food Lists, Meal Plan and More
Written by Jillian Kubala, MS, RD on January 3, 2019
Calorie Needs
Foods to Eat
Foods to Avoid
Meal Plan
Tips
Bottom Line
When trying to lose weight, creating a calorie deficit either by eating less or increasing physical activity is necessary.

Many people choose to follow a 1,500-calorie diet plan to jumpstart weight loss and control their food intake.

This article explains how to follow a 1,500-calorie diet, including foods to eat, foods to avoid and tips for healthy, long-term weight loss.


Understanding Calorie Needs
While 1,500 calories may be a good guideline for many people, be sure to calculate your exact needs to optimize your weight loss journey

The number of calories you need depends on many factors, including physical activity, gender, age, weight loss goals and overall health.

It’s important to estimate how many calories your body requires to both maintain and lose weight when determining your needs.

To calculate your overall calories needs, it’s necessary to calculate the total number of calories you typically burn in a day, which is known as your total daily energy expenditure (TDEE) (1Trusted Source).

The easiest way to determine your TDEE is by using an online calculator or the Mifflin-St. Jeor equation, a formula in which you plug in your height, weight and age.

Here is the Mifflin-St. Jeor equation for both men and women:

Men: Calories per day = 10x(weight in kg) + 6.25x(height in cm) – 5x(age) + 5
Women: Calories per day = 10x(weight in kg) + 6.25x(height in cm) – 5x(age) – 161
To calculate your TDEE, the answer from the Mifflin. St. Jeor equation is then multiplied by a number corresponding to your level of activity, known as an activity factor (2).

There are five different levels of activity:

Sedentary: x 1.2 (sedentary individuals who perform little to no exercise)
Lightly active: x 1.375 (light exercise fewer than 3 days per week)
Moderately active: x 1.55 (moderate exercise most days of the week)
Very active: x 1.725 (hard exercise every day)
Extra active: x 1.9 (strenuous exercise 2 or more times per day)
After determining your TDEE by multiplying the answer from the Mifflin. St-Jeor equation with the correct activity factor, calories can be adjusted depending on your weight loss goals.

Creating a Calorie Deficit for Weight Loss
While weight loss is much more complex than the “calories in, calories out” way of thinking, generally speaking, a calorie deficit needs to be created to lose body fat.

Typically, a reduction of 500 calories per day is suggested to lose 1 pound (450 grams) per week.

Though this would equate to a 52-pound (23.5-kg) weight loss in one year, research shows that the average rate of weight loss is much slower.

Behavioral and biological factors, such as dietary adherence and differences in gut bacteria and metabolic rates, lead people to lose weight at different rates (3Trusted Source, 4Trusted Source).

For example, a review of 35 studies observed weight loss of 0.004–2.5 pounds (0.002–1.13 kg) per week when calories were restricted by 240–1,000 calories per day (5Trusted Source).

Rather than setting an unrealistic goal, aim for slow, consistent weight loss of 1–2 pounds (0.5–1 kg) per week.

However, since weight loss differs drastically from person to person, it’s important to not get discouraged if you aren’t losing weight as quickly as expected.

Bumping up physical activity, spending less time sitting, cutting out added sugars and focusing on whole foods should help expedite weight loss and help you stay on track.

SUMMARY
Determine your calorie needs, then create a calorie deficit by subtracting 500 calories from your TDEE. Aim for a slow weight loss of 1–2 pounds (0.5–1 kg) per week.
Foods to Eat on a 1,500-Calorie Diet
When attempting to lose weight and adopt better eating habits, it’s important to choose unprocessed, whole foods.

Though it’s perfectly healthy to have a treat now and then, the majority of your diet should be made up of the following foods:

Non-starchy vegetables: Kale, arugula, spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, peppers, mushrooms, asparagus, tomatoes, etc.
Fruits: Berries, apples, pears, citrus fruits, melon, grapes, bananas, etc.
Starchy vegetables: Potatoes, peas, sweet potatoes, plantains, butternut squash, etc.
Fish and shellfish: Sea Bass, salmon, cod, clams, shrimp, sardines, trout, oysters, etc.
Eggs: Whole eggs are more nutrient dense than egg whites.
Poultry and meat: Chicken, turkey, beef, bison, lamb, etc.
Plant-based protein sources: Tofu, tempeh, plant-based protein powders.
Whole grains: Oats, brown rice, farro, quinoa, bulgur, barley, millet, etc.
Legumes: Chickpeas, kidney beans, lentils, black beans and more.
Healthy fats: Avocados, olive oil, unsweetened coconut, avocado oil, coconut oil, etc.
Dairy products: Full-fat or reduced-fat plain yogurt, kefir and full-fat cheeses.
Seeds, nuts and nut butters: Almonds, macadamia nuts, pumpkin seeds, walnuts, sunflower seeds, natural peanut butter, almond butter and tahini.
Unsweetened plant-based milks: Coconut, almond, cashew and hemp milk.
Seasonings: Turmeric, garlic, oregano, rosemary, chili pepper, black pepper, salt, etc.
Condiments: Apple cider vinegar, salsa, lemon juice, garlic powder, etc.
Non-calorie beverages: Water, sparkling water, coffee, green tea, etc.
Be sure to eat plenty of fiber-rich foods and quality sources of protein at each meal.

Protein is the most filling of the three macronutrients and combining a protein with filling fiber sources, such as non-starchy vegetables, beans or berries, can help prevent overeating.

Research shows that both high-fiber and high-protein diets are effective at promoting fat loss (6Trusted Source, 7Trusted Source).

SUMMARY
Whole foods, such as vegetables, fruits, eggs, fish and nuts, should make up the majority of any healthy diet.

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Foods to Avoid
Processed foods and added sugar should be kept to a minimum in any healthy weight loss plan.

Cutting out or limiting the following foods can help you lose weight and improve your overall health.

Fast food: Chicken nuggets, fries, pizza, hot dogs etc.
Refined carbs: White bread, sugary cereals, white pasta, bagels, crackers, corn chips, tortillas, etc.
Added sugars: Sugary snack bars, candy, baked goods, candy, table sugar, agave, etc.
Processed foods: Packaged foods, processed meats (deli meats, bacon), boxed pasta dishes, cereal bars, etc.
Fried foods: Potato chips, deep-fried foods, doughnuts, mozzarella sticks, etc.
Diet and low-fat foods: Diet bars, low-fat ice cream, low-fat chips, diet frozen meals, low-calorie candies, etc.
Sweetened beverages: Soda, fruit juice, energy drinks, flavored milks, sweetened coffee drinks, etc.
Although enjoying a favorite food or beverage every now and then won’t hurt your weight loss goals, indulging regularly will.

For example, if you have a habit of eating ice cream every night after dinner, reduce your intake to one serving of ice cream once or twice a week.

Cutting back on habits that are hindering weight loss may take time, but it’s necessary in order to reach your wellness goals.

SUMMARY
Fast food, refined carbs and added sugars should be limited when following a nutritious diet for weight loss.
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A One-Week Sample Meal Plan
Here is a nutritious, one-week 1,500-calorie sample menu.

The meals can be adapted to fit any dietary preference, including vegetarians and those eating gluten-free.

The following meals are around 500 calories each (8Trusted Source):

Monday
Breakfast — Egg and Avocado Toast
2 eggs
1 slice of Ezekiel toast
1/2 avocado
Lunch — Salad With Grilled Chicken
2 cups (40 grams) of spinach
4 ounces (112 grams) of grilled chicken
1/2 cup (120 grams) of chickpeas
1/2 cup (25 grams) of shredded carrots
1 ounce (28 grams) of goat cheese
Balsamic vinaigrette
Dinner — Cod With Quinoa and Broccoli
5 ounces (140 grams) of baked cod
1 tablespoon (15 ml) of olive oil
3/4 cup (138 grams) of quinoa
2 cups (176 grams) of roasted broccoli
Tuesday
Breakfast — Healthy Yogurt Bowl
1 cup (245 grams) of full-fat plain yogurt
1 cup (123 grams) of raspberries
2 tablespoons (28 grams) of sliced almonds
2 tablespoons (28 grams) of chia seeds
1 tablespoon (14 grams) of unsweetened coconut
Lunch — Mozzarella Wrap
2 ounces (46 grams) of fresh mozzarella
1 cup (140 grams) of sweet red peppers
2 slices of tomato
1 tablespoon (15 grams) of pesto
1 small, whole-grain wrap
Dinner — Salmon With Veggies
1 small sweet potato (60 grams)
1 teaspoon (5 grams) of butter
4 ounces (112 grams) of wild-caught salmon
1 cup (88 grams) of roasted Brussels sprouts
Wednesday
Breakfast — Oatmeal
1 cup (81 grams) of oatmeal cooked in 1 cup (240 ml) of unsweetened almond milk
1 cup (62 grams) of sliced apple
1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon
2 tablespoons (32 grams) of natural peanut butter
Lunch — Veggie and Hummus Wrap
1 small whole-grain wrap
2 tablespoons (32 grams) of hummus
1/2 avocado
2 slices of tomato
1 cup (20 grams) of fresh arugula
1 ounce (28 grams) of muenster cheese
Dinner — Chili
3 ounces (84 grams) of ground turkey
1/2 cup (120 grams) of black beans
1/2 cup (120 grams) of kidney beans
1 cup (224 grams) of crushed tomatoes
Thursday
Breakfast — Peanut Butter and Banana Toast With Eggs
2 fried eggs
1 slice of Ezekiel toast
2 tablespoons (32 grams) of natural peanut butter
1/2 sliced banana
Lunch — On-the-Go Sushi
1 cucumber and avocado sushi roll made with brown rice
1 vegetable roll with brown rice
2 pieces of salmon sashimi and a green salad
Dinner — Black Bean Burger
1 cup (240 grams) of black beans
1 egg
Chopped onion
Chopped garlic
1 tablespoon (14 grams) of breadcrumbs
2 cups (20 grams) of mixed greens
1 ounce (28 grams) of feta cheese
Friday
Breakfast — Breakfast smoothie
1 scoop of pea protein powder
1 cup (151 grams) of frozen blackberries
1 cup (240 ml) of coconut milk
1 tablespoon (16 grams) of cashew butter
1 tablespoon (14 grams) of hemp seeds
Lunch — Kale Salad With Grilled Chicken
2 cups (40 grams) of kale
4 ounces (112 grams) of grilled chicken
1/2 cup (120 grams) of lentils
1/2 cup (25 grams) of shredded carrots
1 cup (139 grams) of cherry tomatoes
1 ounce (28 grams) of goat cheese
Balsamic vinaigrette
Dinner — Shrimp Fajitas
4 ounces (112 grams) of grilled shrimp
2 cups (278 grams) of onions and peppers sauteed in 1 tablespoon (15 ml) of olive oil
2 small corn tortillas
1 tablespoon of full-fat sour cream
1 ounce (28 grams) of shredded cheese
Saturday
Breakfast — Oatmeal
1 cup (81 grams) of oatmeal cooked in 1 cup (240 ml) unsweetened almond milk
1 cup (123 grams) of blueberries
1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon
2 tablespoons (32 grams) of natural almond butter
Lunch — Tuna Salad
5 ounces (140 grams) of canned tuna
1 tablespoon (16 grams) of mayo
Chopped celery
2 cups (40 grams) of mixed greens
1/4 sliced avocado
1/2 cup (31 grams) of sliced green apple
Dinner — Chicken With Veggies
5 ounces (120 grams) of baked chicken
1 cup (205 grams) of roasted butternut squash cooked in 1 tablespoon (15 ml) of olive oil
2 cups (176 grams) roasted broccoli
Sunday
Breakfast — Omelet
2 eggs
1 ounce (28 grams) of cheddar cheese
1 cup (20 grams) of spinach cooked in 1 tablespoon (15 ml) of coconut oil
1 cup (205 grams) of sautéed sweet potatoes
Lunch — On-the-Go Chipotle
1 Chipotle burrito bowl made with romaine lettuce, Barbacoa chicken, brown rice, 1/2 serving of guacamole and fresh salsa
Dinner — Pasta With Pesto and Beans
1 cup (140 grams) of brown-rice pasta or whole-wheat pasta
1 tablespoon (14 grams) of pesto
1/4 cup (60 grams) of cannellini beans
1 cup (20 grams) of spinach
1 cup (139 grams) of cherry tomatoes
1 tablespoon (5 grams) of grated parmesan cheese
As you can see, eating healthy doesn’t have to be boring.

What’s more, though cooking and packing meals from home should be prioritized, there are plenty of healthy choices for on-the-go meals.

If you know you will be eating at a restaurant, look at the menu beforehand and pick out an option that is both appetizing and nutritious.

This way, you will be less inclined to make a last-minute unhealthy meal choice.

SUMMARY
A 1,500-calorie diet should be rich in fresh produce, protein and fiber. Though preparing meals at home is best, it’s possible to make healthy choices when eating out by reviewing the menu beforehand.


Tips for Successful Weight Loss
While sticking to a 1,500-calorie diet may certainly spark weight loss, there are several other ways to ensure that you meet your weight loss goals in a healthy, sustainable way.

Be Aware of Your Calorie Intake
Though you may think that you’re eating less, it’s common to underestimate the amount of food that you are consuming (9Trusted Source).

An easy way to make sure you are staying under your calorie needs is to use a food journal or calorie tracking app.

Logging meals, snacks and drinks along with the calories they contain can help you stay on track and reduces the chances of underestimating your calorie consumption.

Although tracking foods is a helpful tool when first starting a meal plan, it can create an unhealthy relationship with food in some people.

Focusing on portion control, eating whole foods, practicing mindful eating and getting enough exercise are better ways to keep weight off in the long term (10Trusted Source, 11Trusted Source).

Eat Whole Foods
Any healthy meal plan should revolve around whole, natural foods.

Processed foods and beverages, such as fast food, candy, baked goods, white bread and soda, aren’t good for your health and major contributors to the obesity epidemic (12Trusted Source).

Although processed diet and low-fat snacks and meals may seem like a wise choice when trying to lose weight, these foods often contain ingredients like added sugars that can contribute to inflammation and weight gain (13Trusted Source).

Whole foods like vegetables, fruits, fish, eggs, poultry, nuts and seeds are packed with nutrients and tend to be more filling than processed foods.

Basing your meals around whole, single-ingredient foods is one of the best ways to promote lasting weight loss or to maintain a healthy body weight.

Be More Active
Even though it’s possible to lose weight by just cutting calories, adding exercise into your routine not only promotes weight loss but improves overall health.

While starting a new fitness program may seem like a daunting task, it doesn’t have to be.

If you have never exercised, simply going on half-hour walks three times a week is an excellent way to boost activity.

Once you’re in better physical shape, add in different types of workouts or activities like biking, swimming, hiking or jogging.

Increasing exercise can boost your mood and decrease your risk of chronic diseases, such as heart disease, diabetes and certain cancers (14Trusted Source).

Don’t Obsess Over Your Weight
While people generally state that they want to lose weight, they often mean that they want to lose fat.

When you adopt a healthy, sustainable weight loss plan that includes plenty of exercise, you should be gaining muscle mass.

Though this leads to slower weight loss, increased muscle mass helps your body burn fat (15Trusted Source).

Rely less on the scale and try out different methods to track fat loss, such as taking measurements of your thighs, hips, belly, chest and upper arms.

This can show you that even though the scale shows slow weight loss, you’re still losing fat and gaining muscle.

SUMMARY
Being aware of calorie intake, eating whole foods, increasing physical activity and not obsessing over your body weight are simple ways to reach your weight loss goals.
The Bottom Line
No matter how much weight you need to lose, cutting out excess calories and increasing physical activity is key.

A 1,500-calorie diet fits the needs of many people who want to lose fat and improve health. Like any healthy diet it should include mostly whole, unprocessed foods.

Reducing excess calories and using some of the simple tips in this article can help you succeed in your weight loss journey.

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goose 9:56 Thu Feb 20
Re: Quitting Sugar and Processed Foods - How to Stop being a Fat Bastard
Honestly Nutsin you’re either an idiot or just being obtuse.
I’ll give you +\\- 5% but not 30%!!

1500 calories is barely enough for a 10 stone adult.

Can you talk me through your 6 x 250 calories you’ve got lined up today......

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